Over the weekend some Labour candidates wrote to the papers in support of cautious and gradual rail renationalisation. According to that same piece, “Ed Balls is said to be resistant to anything that would be portrayed by Labour’s opponents as anti-business or a lurch back to the pre-Thatcher era of nationalised industries.” And yet, at a hustings I attended, when the candidates were asked which of their own parties’ policies they would change, the Tory said, without hesitating, rail privatisation, and that he accepted it had been a disaster. Policy lurched right on this. Even many in the Tories think a moderate lean to the left now wouldn’t be a bad idea. But Labour remain just too timid.
As I read this weekend’s coverage I thought to myself about how great it would be if someone had some polling on this just lying around unpublished. Then I remembered that I did! As part of my ongoing polling series with Survation, the Daily Record and Dundee University’s Five Million Questions, last month we asked whether the Scottish public would like to see the train companies renationalised, and the result was 71% for, 29% against (excluding don’t knows: full figures yes 59%, no 24%, don’t know 17%). It’s like I cleverly saved the data for the May Day weekend.
So, by a factor of more than two to one, the Scottish people are to the left of the current positions held by both of our supposedly social-democratic parties. Which means, sadly, this popular policy is offered by only one of the Holyrood parties, the Greens. Much as it’s nice to have such another unique selling point, we’d be a lot more likely to see public control restored if one of the two larger parties felt inclined to outflank the other to the left and adopt a policy with such clear majority support.
While I was at it, I thought I’d establish how far the Scottish people want to see public control over the rest of the commanding heights of the economy. These were the results from Survation (summary table including don’t knows here).
Would like to see nationalised |
Would not like to see nationalised |
|
Royal Mail |
74% | 26% |
Gas and electricity companies |
72% | 28% |
Train companies |
71% | 29% |
Private prisons and prisoner transport services |
68% | 32% |
Bus services |
59% | 31% |
Airports |
49% | 51% |
Land-line phone companies |
47% | 53% |
High street / retail banks |
41% | 59% |
Investment banks |
36% | 64% |
Mobile phone operators |
29% | 71% |
It’s quite impressive, really, the scale to which the public are to the left of the SNP and the three Westminster parties. Clear majorities want to renationalise Royal Mail, the power companies, the train companies, the bus companies, and to end private prisons and prisoner transport. The only one from that list where any of those four parties is in line with public opinion is the SNP’s welcome commitment to bring Royal Mail back into public ownership. Ed Miliband gets slated for his policy to cap energy costs as if it’s too left-wing. The truth is it’s too timid and too impractical, and a massive majority of the public want to go much further and overturn the Thatcher-era electricity privatisations completely.
And beyond that, more than 40% of the Scottish public would even nationalise all the high street banks, those we don’t yet own. Despite no political party pushing renationalisation of BT as a monopoly landline operator (effectively those landline services would be close to free, given the true costs of operating them now), the majority against this idea is slim. It’s hardly surprising opinion is divided: we traded one pretty incompetent nationalised industry for several pretty incompetent private firms. Personally if we must have incompetent phone companies I’d at least prefer vast private profits weren’t being made from us.
Overall, though, this is what a radically under-served left-leaning electorate looks like. We know the Tories and the Lib Dems will always be wrong on public ownership: but what excuse do Labour and the SNP have?
#1 by Allan (@greenrhino3) on May 5, 2014 - 5:32 pm
Of course the roadblock to rail re-nationalisation isn’t just the Westminster politicians, but the EU. There’s an EU directive that would make that action unlawful and anti-competitive, while the EU have already raised questions about our banking baleout.
The problem isn’t parties claiming to be socialy democratic, but parties that are socialy democratic that are prepared to critisise the EU. Sadly the main Euroscepic party in this country are Farage’s mob, who see issues around EU regulations but don’t appear to have a problem with the EU’s privatisation agenda.
#2 by Iain Menzies on May 5, 2014 - 5:57 pm
I wonder how useful this data really is.
What i find interesting is the difference between mobile and land-line phone companies. Fundamentally the product is the same. You could make the case that with smart phones the product is not the same anymore, but my counter to that would be anyone with an internet connection the the home is more than likely getting it down the phone line.
Being broadly to the right myself, I aint what you would call big on nationalisation, but i think i understand what the numbers are the way they are for those pretty much everything you have listed above.
I think most people would take the view that the service provided by the first three is pretty crap on the whole. Or if good over priced.
On prisons, I wonder what the numbers would be like if you asked two questions rather than lumping transport and prisons themselves together. For my own part I have no problem with a private firm running what is in essence a taxi service, but i wouldnt go further than saying i was open to the prospect of a private firm running part of the justice system.
Also I wonder what the geographic break down would be for the trains. I live on the easter edge of the SPT area, and a friend of mine lives two stops closer to edinburgh. The difference in price for him to get to glasgow than for me makes no sense. I really dont understand how those two stops and another 10 mins equates to double the price.
As for the royal mail. Well pretty much all my ‘mail’ is done by email these days, But considering that more than 70% of the things i have ordered from amazon over the last three years have gone straight to the local post office without so much as a card in my letter box, and i cant remember ever having a problem with anything that has been delivered by someone other than Royal mail, I think i would rather see anyone but royal mail dealing with my post.
And that is before you start talking about the cost of a stamp these days….
With respect i think you have drawn the wrong conclusion here. This isnt about the public being left or right wing. Its more about how the respond to wheter or not they feel they are getting value from the market.
#3 by Bill Chapman on May 5, 2014 - 6:56 pm
I cannot see that the inclusion of Labour in your heading is correct when it was Labour candidates who wrote in support of cautious and gradual rail renationalisation. Politics is, of course, the art of the possible, so I can understand Ed Balls’s caution too. Labour’s manifesto is not yet ready, so there is still time for this idea to become part of policy.
Incidentally, I don’t see any party as in touch with the electorate, at least here in north Wales. Labour canvassers have been out and about talking to people, and people on the doorstep frequently say that Labour is the only party to have contacted them.
#4 by bjsalba on May 7, 2014 - 8:05 am
As far as I am aware, SNP already wants to re-nationalize Royal Mail. They clearly are not into privatizing as can be seen from the Scottish NHS.
As far as I know, they have not been impressed with the way the power companies ran the insulation deals (inefficient, costly and ineffective). Didn’t they take that back from them? They aren’t exactly enthralled with the way some bus companies have demanded subsidies from councils for loss making parts of services whilst making fat profits on others. I suspect next time the licences come up, the contracts will be tighter.
I think their preferred approach is outsourcing with tight contracts closely monitored by competent professionals properly paid. That is an area where other parties have failed spectacularly, given PFI (Labour) and outsourcing to private companies by the current coalition (G4S, Serco, Capita etc).
It seems to be pretty successful so far. As long as the unions and management regard nationalized entities as pots of gold I don’t think they will work.
#5 by James on May 7, 2014 - 8:19 am
The insulation work was indeed inefficient, costly and ineffective, but that was primarily a function of a means-tested piecemeal system established by Ministers. The power companies ran an inherently inefficient system for them. In Huddersfield, where the local council ran a non-means-tested universal scheme the costs were between 10 and 15 times lower per house.