A grand guest today from Garve, a middle-aged website programmer based in the Highlands, passionate about Scottish independence, Ross County FC and open government. He’s very annoyed that some numpty took the Twitter handle which is rightfully his, but doesn’t use it, and that he’s had to resort to @G4rve.
The recent release of an SFL document prepared after talks with the SPL and SFA, which crudely both threatens and bribes Scottish clubs to ignore any niggling remnants of the integrity they might once have possessed in order to vote a new club into SFL Div 1 simply confirms my belief that the entire system is broken and corrupt.
Take one issue. I’m convinced that every single person involved in Scottish football agrees that one-up/one down between the SPL and SFL1 is wrong, and that at a minimum, playoffs should be introduced. What do you call a system where for years everyone agrees something is wrong, where it would only take a vote to change it, and yet nothing happens? Broken. Why is this the case? Because those who can vote are also those who gain or lose through the result of their votes. Corrupt.
If I were to create a new structure, it would be run by people whose allegiance was to the sport only, and not to individual clubs. They’d be tasked with making the game entertaining, promoting youth development and pretty much nothing else. They’d do so without any thought for the preferences of the big clubs or the television networks.
What would be possible under such a structure? Well, just about anything. We’re constrained by the rules on the pitch, which is fine, but off it we should use our imagination. Most fans agree that the current league structure is often dull and far too predictable.
I’m only one supporter, but I’ve got a dozen fantastic ideas to improve things. I say fantastic in that 95% of them are fantasy, crazy and unworkable, but 5% would be great improvements. Unfortunately I don’t know which is which, and up to now there hasn’t seemed to be any chance that they could get voted through the current moribund structure anyway.
But the crisis brought on by Rangers’ failure may have changed that. It’s clear that the decision of many SPL clubs to vote no to a newco claiming a place was brought on by fan power, until now a fluffy, feelgood concept which the clubs were happy to pay lip service to, but never believed would really matter to them. If fan power can do that, is it time to take it a step further and use it to force through a complete revamp of the game? If it’s ever going to happen it needs to be now.
So here’s a fanciful program for change. A fan’s forum collects enough signatures to credibly put the footballing authorities on notice that a new structure is to be developed for the start of the 2013/14 season, with boycotts to ensue if it’s not accepted. A month is taken to allow fans to submit all the crazy ideas that have for a new system, then 100 people from all over the country are elected to take these and turn them into a workable structure and competition. This is released before Christmas to be simulated, tested and commented on for a month, a further month is taken to incorporate those findings and the plan is finalised by the end of February. Until then, clubs won’t know if they are playing for promotion or fighting relegation, because the league structure of the next season is unknown, if it’s a league structure at all.
What about my fantastic ideas then? Well, here are a few.
- Start with clubs having no representation within football’s authorities whatsoever.
- A national 16 team league with a pyramid structure beneath it formed of 3 regional 16 team leagues. 3 up/3 down, with a further 3 play-off places. Relegation from the regional leagues to local feeders, giving a route for any club to make its way through the system.
- A new cup for the top league and teams which finish in the top half of the regional leagues, which also invites teams from Northern Ireland, the Republic, Wales and one each from the Faroe Islands and the Isle of Man.
- Two franchise places in the league system for London Scottish and Manchester Scottish teams. UEFA won’t stand for it? Have we ever asked them?
- 50% of money raised by the authorities through sponsorship or TV rights is distributed equally to clubs throughout the game to increase competition, with the rest paid in prize money on a sliding scale. No club can receive this money unless they have an active youth and women’s football setup. Part of this money also withheld from clubs which don’t have a certain level of fan representation on their boards.
- All players to have a registration record which holds information about the clubs, league and non-league, which they played for or trained with until they were 18. A proportion of any prize money their later clubs earn goes to the clubs which developed them, along with other payments. For instance, if Cowdenbeath develop a player who eventually plays for Scotland, they get £1,000 each time he (or she) is capped.
Dumb ideas? I’m only one fan, and out of a thousand dumb ideas there will be lots of great ones, enough to be the structure of a new, more exciting setup for Scottish football. If Iceland can crowdsource its new constitution, perhaps we can do something similar.
#1 by Paul Laing on June 29, 2012 - 1:18 pm
A pyramid system always looks nice on paper but in reality is fantasy. Only a small group of non-league sides wanted to play in the SFL anyway, and the Rangers saga will have put some off further. And how willing would smaller senior sides be to dropping out?
Credit though for proposing a three-regional system as opposed to the ill-thought Lowland/Highland tiers.
#2 by Garve on June 29, 2012 - 1:43 pm
Firstly, my intention was not to outline a blueprint for the game. I’ve got my ideas, but am sure most will not stand up to scrutiny and others can be vastly improved. I just wanted to say that there is a gigantic body of enthusistic supporters who would love the opportunity to rebuild the game from scratch.
The pyramid system is utterly essential though, and the idea that smaller sides might not like it is exactly the reason it has to happen. There are a number of clubs who’d like to join the league at the moment, but how many more would add that ambition if it were at all possible?
#3 by Paul Laing on June 29, 2012 - 3:23 pm
I wasn’t criticising you – instead very sceptical (at least) in the prospect of a pyramid. It is essential I would agree – but when the non-league sides who want to join the SFL sits in single-figures it’s a no-go. The current set-up is archiac but offers sides security. The challenge for the SFA and governing bodies is to offer a more secure system than half-baked Lowland league plans or Colts.
#4 by Craig Gallagher on June 29, 2012 - 1:19 pm
Crowdsourcing the future of Scottish football is certainly something I’m in favour of. I do, however, think some of your suggestions are potty (not least the English-based Scottish teams) and your dismissal of finance as a motivating factor somewhat cavalier.
But in spirit, I acknowledge that we have an unrivalled opportunity to reform the entire system. As a Celtic fan, I have very little interest in being completely cut out of the Champions League and other such European competitions, but I also queasily recognise that the only way to succeed in such environs is to break the bank, something I remain grateful the current club hierarchy aren’t prepared to do. As a result – and in full expectation that the Premier League bubble which is inflating prices artificially right across European football is due to burst very soon – I’m hugely sympathetic to grassroots reform at home.
I think we’re too large a country to only have one national division, and so would argue for a first tier of 16 teams and a second of 22 (30 and 42 games per season respectively) with a pyramid system of four divisions – maybe Highland, Eastern, Western and Borders – which have playoffs between their winners to obtain two promotion spots to Div. Two. I’d also have a National Cup a la the Copa del Rey which starts in August for the regional leagues, introduces Div. Two sides in December and Div. One sides in the traditional January round.
Lastly, I think your best idea is the development fee, that insists any club that has had a hand in fashioning a footballer gets some kind of renumeration. I would downplay the national team aspect though, and simply give clubs the power to write payments into the transfer from the buying club that they will pay a fee of that player gains international recognition; perhaps even make this a prerequisite of all transfers. And it should probably be scaled based on the quality of the National Team. What if Islam Feruz ended up playing for Somalia instead of Scotland? Would Celtic have been entitled to the same renumeration, given that it’s easier to get into the former team than the latter?
#5 by CW on June 29, 2012 - 2:33 pm
You’re from Greenock, and you’re a Celtic fan?
#6 by Craig Gallagher on June 29, 2012 - 3:02 pm
Yes.
#7 by CW on June 30, 2012 - 1:06 am
Glory hunter.
#8 by Craig Gallagher on June 30, 2012 - 1:23 pm
Ah, I didn’t think you’d be so blunt. But congratulations on an utterly foolish comment. You’ll be one of those holier-than-thou “support your local team” types, right? The type who would have a problem with my father, who grew up in Dennistoun as the son of Irish immigrants, driving me as a five year old to Parkhead instead of Cappielow? Well, I don’t feel the need to justify who I support to so closed a mind as yours. I’m intelligent enough to make my own choice and I made it years ago, and have stood by it since.
#9 by Andra on June 30, 2012 - 5:01 pm
Fair enough in yer ain case, but it wid be nice if we could hae a set-up that encouraged folk frae Greenock tae support Morton, and similarly roond the country. I’ve nae idea how tae achieve this mind you! Mibbe mail equal share o money?
#10 by Garve on June 29, 2012 - 2:00 pm
Potty? I’ve admitted as much in the text, more or less.
In terms of dismissing finance, I believe that clubs should be run as businesses, but not the sport. It’s up to each club to do as well as it can within a framework based purely on making football entertaining and appealing.
It’s good to have feedback on the idea of rewarding clubs for development. It would be a fairly complex system to maintain, but I believe it would be worth it. It should be based on achievement rather than transfers though – if a player is bought by Celtic from Cowdenbeath at 19 and plays the rest of his career there, Cowdenbeath wouldn’t benefit. If however, for playing x games in a league winning team, 0.1% of Celtic’s prize money goes back to Central Park then they benefit throughout his career. The scheme would of course only work within Scottish football, unless other countries took up something similar.
#11 by bc on June 29, 2012 - 2:00 pm
I’d like to see the scottish football season changed. Why do we play over winter and not summer?
Playing over winter means that:
1) Tons of games are cancelled due to crap weather causing fixture congestion.
2) Pitches are always in awful condition which means any hope of playing a passing game is forlorn.
3) There tons of competition from more glamorous leagues for fans’ attention.
I don’t understand why we don’t play over summer at all. better weather, better pitches, teams hitting performance peak right at the start of the european campaign (and, realisticlaly, it is doubtful scottish teams much involved towards winter anyway) – possibly better football and better attendances.
So my pet potty idea is to entirely shift the date of the scottish footballing calendar.
#12 by Paul Laing on June 29, 2012 - 3:26 pm
The last few weeks give the lie to the dreamy image of summer football. My junior side have seen games called off in August and September in recent years, and smaller teams would find it tough to maintain grounds over a long winter break.
Would dreack, wet late-November Scottish Cup Final look good for the game? Or depleted sides or crowds in summer due to squads holiday commitments?
#13 by James on June 29, 2012 - 2:12 pm
I do love this post, primarily for the methods of acquiring fan control rather than the specific proposals.
On 1, I’d be happy for each league to have a rep, and for those reps to be outnumbered, and I like the last two a lot.
For sustainability of the game, though, the crucial part of the long-term answer is fan ownership. Fans don’t sell future ticket income to prop up their dodgy business models, or change team colours, or flog off grounds unnecessarily: fans look to the long term term of their club. The rest is largely deck-chair stuff.
#14 by Garve on June 29, 2012 - 2:40 pm
I do completely agree about fan ownership, but would say that I’d rather not force clubs to go down that route. If in the future, 2/3 of clubs were owned by fans and 1/3 by individuals then having that variety may well add to the entertainment value of the setup as a whole.
#15 by Chris on June 29, 2012 - 2:24 pm
I’d like to propose that each member of the national league should run boys and girls teams from under-8s up to under-21s. Preferably these would be community run.
I would like clubs to have a range of facilities such as all-weather pitches and secondary pitches for the other teams. Of course this would need partnership either with the private sector for the commercially run clubs or with the public sector for community run clubs, or possibly a three-way partnership.
There are plenty of well run clubs like these – Annan Athletic spring to mind. I would propose that a club would only keep a licence for a senior team if it ran the other teams too.
I think the English pyramid system works well. Clubs are free to refuse promotion if they don’t want it and it could be the same here.
#16 by Garve on June 29, 2012 - 2:43 pm
An option might be that each club has two parts – a footballing side and a community side. The money paid to the club is split in half, one part to each. If a club doesn’t have a community side, it only gets half it’s payment and prize money. That way we don’t force clubs to do things they perhaps can’t, but we do strongly encourage those who can.
#17 by Chris on June 29, 2012 - 2:29 pm
If you are looking for ill-though our tiers consider Oxford City who have just won promotion to the Conference NORTH.
#18 by Garve on June 29, 2012 - 2:45 pm
Regional leagues certainly do have their problems – clubs on the borders would need to accept that they might get switched from one to another year-on-year. Of maybe someone can come up with a better solution?
#19 by Craig on June 29, 2012 - 4:40 pm
“Two franchise places in the league system for London Scottish and Manchester Scottish teams. UEFA won’t stand for it? Have we ever asked them?”
No need to ask UEFA. Bar your historical exceptions (Berwick, Gretna, the Welsh teams, etc) UEFA have made it very clear that they will not tolerate teams playing in another national league when a suitable domestic league exists. Indeed in the case of the Welsh teams, where no Welsh League previously existed, they threatened to kick the Welsh FA out if the League of Wales wasn’t set up.
The reason is that the one thing UEFA fears above all is the big European clubs starting a breakaway league – abandoning their domestic leagues and UEFA’s Champions League. Hence UEFA clamp down on any attempt to participate in non-domestic leagues in case it sets a precedent.
For the same reason, they probably wouldn’t accept the Scotland-Wales-NI-Ireland-Faroes-Manx cup idea either.
#20 by Neil Barbour on June 29, 2012 - 6:58 pm
I agree with a great deal of proposals above.
Regionalised leagues below 16 club top league, increased fan representation, development money if player is capped.
I would go further
Any club developing a player is entitled to a future transfer cash. 5% of all transfer money should be allocated to teams developing players under 18
As per copa del reya all lower league teams get home advantage until quarter and semi-finals which would be 2 legged.
Any future newco would be required to start at lowest level and work their way back up
Clubs in top league would be limited to 1non-EU player.( prefer limit to 3 non Scotland qualified players but breaches employment law)
End of league cup
All teams would have to ensure players get training for life after football, not just coaching certificates but Uni/college courses
I know these might seems a fantasy but if we start from stratch then it’s possible
#21 by Iain Menzies on June 29, 2012 - 7:00 pm
I would change everything so it was exactly like rugby.
Im guessing this is gonna be an idea that doesnt get alot of support….
#22 by Garve on June 29, 2012 - 8:40 pm
We specifically can’t change the rules of the game, but there will certainly be lessons we could learn from the way other sports are structured. Take Rugby League for instance, where the top teams play off for the grand final at the end of the season.