It seems like an odd question even to ask. At Holyrood the rump of the Lib Dems is four square behind equal marriage, and their activist base is almost certainly less heteronormative than the other larger parties.
Furthermore, parliamentary politics as practiced either at Holyrood or Westminster hasn’t that much residual homophobia going on. As it was put to me in conversation this week, every political party is essentially LGBT-friendly now, even the Tories (imagine Ruth winning even ten years ago) – with the possible exception, my friend noted, of the SNP, where LGBT MSPs have to rub shoulders at group meetings with the likes of John Mason and Bill Walker. Even Jackson Carlaw, probably the most right-wing person at Holyrood apart from Fergus Ewing, has signed the Equal Marriage pledge.
And yet, and yet.
The story of Simon Hughes and his relationship with both the newspapers and his own sexuality is back on the agenda again. For those who don’t know the original story, he was the Liberal Party candidate in the 1983 Bermondsey by-election, taking on Peter Tatchell, then in Labour and now someone I’m proud to have met while we were both out campaigning for Caroline Lucas in 2010. Peter had already been an LGBT activist with the Gay Liberation Front, and as a result the Liberal Party leaflets were larded with innuendo, endorsing Hughes as “a straight choice” for Bermondsey, despite, as it turns out, his closetted bisexuality. Peter’s accepted Hughes’ apology for the hypocrisy and negativity, but that’s just because Peter’s a better person than I am.
The story has come back again because, as the Guardian reports, Hughes finally pre-emptively outed himself to the Sun in 2006 following alleged phone-hacking that would have revealed he’d called gay chat lines.
That’s an understandable response to another shocking breach of privacy, but the article also contains a peculiar new angle. The Guardian quotes Hughes indirectly as follows. “Hughes added that he believed the forced revelation came at the time he was running for the party leadership and pushed him out of contention.” Really? Being bisexual would make it impossible to lead the Lib Dems? Either that’s true, in which case their membership is a lot more homophobic than one might expect, or Hughes has not just seriously misread his party, he’s also bad-mouthed his colleagues.
Hughes is not an isolated case, though. Leaving aside the more complicated situation of Mark Oaten, consider also David Laws. Despite the best efforts of his supporters, it wasn’t his sexuality that brought him down – it was the sight of a millionaire chiselling the taxpayer by lying about his living arrangements, not to mention doing so after making probity on his expenses a major part of his election campaign. But he couldn’t feel comfortable being out, and it wasn’t clear whether that was because he feared for the reaction from friends and family, or the party, or the electorate, or the media, or what combination of those.
What’s more, the specific language and way in which he announced his resignation were problematic. As a former Lib Dem friend of mine put it to me: “He said the past few days had been the “longest and toughest” of his life because he was outed – what a message to send to young people thinking about coming out. The whole thing about wanting to keep his sexuality a secret just had this tone of gay equalling shameful. It was horrible.”
The expectation is that the Lib Dems would be a safe crowd to be out amongst. But perhaps Simon Hughes is right, and perhaps that’s not the real truth.
#1 by Steve4319 on March 2, 2012 - 11:13 am
From my experience of working for the a Lib Dem MP, the party is incredibly ‘gay friendly’ – to the extent that people were often surprised when I ‘outed’ myself as straight (for lack of a better word).
The examples you give seem to be based predominately around examples of people feeling uncomfortable being public about their sexuality – opposed to any examples of prejudice within the party. This is an important distinction.
The Lib Dems have been (right from grass roots through to leadership) impressive with their outspoken support for equality. This is something to be encouraged, nurtured and supported!
To compare them to the Conservatives (that are still incredibly divided on the whole issue) is unfair and inaccurate.
There are of course bad eggs within the Lib Dems who hold negative views, but I would suggest (on this issue) no more so than in the Green Party.
#2 by James on March 2, 2012 - 12:04 pm
Just a quick question: do you think Hughes was wrong about his sexuality being a bar to leadership?
#3 by R dfur on March 2, 2012 - 11:26 am
I understand the temptation to make cheap party political points at every opportunity, but to do so at the expense of the very painful coming out of David Laws is shameful. Mr Law’s elderly mother was not aware of his sexuality. Not only did he have to tell her something that he was scared to do (which many of us can identify with), but he had to do it in the full glare of a tabloid feeding frenzy. No wonder he thought they were painful days. To pretend that the Lib Dems have a “gay problem†because an MP found coming out a difficult thing to do is cheap and nasty. Coming out can be difficult at any age. Where is your humanity?
#4 by Doug Daniel on March 2, 2012 - 12:29 pm
I’m not sure what the reasons are for thinking that being gay or bisexual should be a hindrance to leading a UK party, although I suspect it’s mostly derived from ideas about how the media would treat it. Part of the problem is the idea that these people have hidden something from the public. Ruth Davidson has never pretended to be anything other than a lesbian, and your own favourite Scottish party leader has never claimed to be anything other than bisexual. So their sexuality is not an issue, because it’s just a fact.
If Ben Bradshaw or Chris Bryant decided to run for Labour leadership, no one would bat an eyelid, because they’re already out. In fact, I think enough time has passed that Simon Hughes’ sexuality could be considered a non-issue now (and it certainly wasn’t in the deputy leadership contest). I’ve often wondered how things would have panned out if he had been leader instead of Clegg, and when he became deputy Lib Dem leader I was sure he would end up leading a left-leaning splinter group of the Lib Dems by the end of the parliamentary term. But he seems to be unequivocally on-message now.
#5 by Richard on March 2, 2012 - 12:53 pm
I think you’re right on the money there Doug, it’s all about the perception of duplicity.
Having said that, I think that the older guys like Hughes have had it hard, as being gay would have been a barrier when they first entered politics and so they were required to hide to get anywhere in the first place, hence the “coming out” (compare with Davidson who always was “out”). I can’t imagine Ruth having that problem in her early career.
It’s easy to forget just how far LGBT acceptance has come in the last 30 years.
#6 by R dfur on March 2, 2012 - 12:39 pm
Doug> entirely correct. Hughes clearly didn’t think the membership would have a problem, and they clearly didn’t as you correctly pointed out – they elected him deputy leader after he came out. The problem is the media. The fact that he is bisexual and not gay makes the press reaction generally worse. Look at the horrendous way The Mail treats Patrick Harvie. I suspect the author of this article knows that very well…
#7 by Jeff on March 2, 2012 - 12:49 pm
Good post James; brave some would say, but I think there’s an angle certainly worthy of exploration there.
First thing is this (particularly in light of comments above): Lib Dems having an LGBT problem and David Laws (or Simon Hughes) having some genuinely difficult domestic conversations about their sexuality are not two mutually exclusive scenarios.
Does sport have a LGBT problem? Yes it does. Did Neil Jenkins find it difficult to come out at the end of his career? Yes he did. Would sport’s LGBT problem benefit from sportsmen, leaders in particular, coming out more openly? Absolutely.
That for me is what James is getting at here both specifically with the Lib Dems and, by extension, Politics in general. If Simon Hughes felt and/or currently feels that he can’t lead the Lib Dems as openly gay or biexual, that is a big problem for the Lib Dems and a big problem for Politics.
#8 by Ken on March 2, 2012 - 4:44 pm
“Did Neil Jenkins find it difficult to come out at the end of his career? Yes he did.”
Wait. What?
#9 by Alwyn ap Huw on March 2, 2012 - 10:01 pm
Don’t you mean Gareth Thomas rather than Neil Jenkins?
#10 by R dfur on March 2, 2012 - 12:56 pm
But that’s clearly not what James is saying. His article was full of the implication that the Lib Dems had a problem with gay people. If it had been about politics in general then that would be fine. His article was a fairly blatant attempt to smear a political rival. In my book that is shameful, not brave
#11 by Jeff on March 2, 2012 - 1:02 pm
Well, I meant ‘brave’ in the Yes Minister sense (i.e. potentially foolish)
Even if the concern is Politics in general and the issue used as an example is a Lib Dem leader not wanting to lead his party because he is out as bisexual – that adds up to the Lib Dems having a LGBT problem so, for me, the answer to James’ question is Yes. Another way of looking at it is that if Simon Hughes doesn’t want to lead on such an issue then he isn’t leadership material which is not, in itself, necessarily a LGBT problem, but that’s what is up for debate I suppose.
Lib Dems semingly having a LGBT problem is ‘a’, if not necessarily ‘the’, logical conclusion to draw so a far cry from a smear, though you’re of course welcome to see it that way.
#12 by Zoe O'Connell on March 2, 2012 - 1:10 pm
There is a difference between being LGBT being problematic in politics as a whole, in someone’s particular family, or in some geographic area which I think is where Laws and Hughes suffered. In Laws case in particular, it caused problems with expenses which are a hot button in politics.
However, the LibDems internally don’t have a problem from my experience. The equal marriage debate in 2010 was almost embarrassing because the could only find one person to speak against, who was concerned we might lose “homophobic votes”. The party wasn’t particularly interested in that and the vote was nearly unanimous in support.
And for myself, I’ve had a senior figure within the party (Member of the House of Lords) try to persuade me to stand for vetting as a parliamentary candidate. I’m not only a mostly-lesbian bisexual woman, I’m also sex-positive, transsexual and poly.
Finally, whilst I can’t comment as much on the LGB within the Tory party, it’s certainly not true yet (I hope this will change) that they’re T-friendly.
#13 by An Duine Gruamach on March 2, 2012 - 3:54 pm
Sex positive? Poly? ‘Fraid I don’t know what those mean, but from context I guess that adds up to “the Lib Dems don’t really have an LGBT problem.” The Lib Dems, fair play to them, have been consistently on the right side of all of this.
Credibility and trustworthiness, now that’s another matter :p
#14 by R dfur on March 2, 2012 - 1:12 pm
Thanks for your balanced reply Jeff. As someone who has had a difficult coming out I found this article’s implication that the Lib Dems were in some way homophobic because some of their MPs were reluctant to do so quite offensive. Hence the strength of my reponse.
I do however still feel that the author of this article was disingenuous at best in his assessment of LGBT issues in the Lib Dems. They have (along with my party – the Greens) been far ahead of others on equality issues and I think James’s article was motivated by party politics, not a genuine attempt to discuss the effect of homophobia on those in public life
#15 by Jeff on March 2, 2012 - 1:17 pm
No worries. I’m sure James can speak for himself when he’s back online….
#16 by James on March 2, 2012 - 2:12 pm
I’m sorry you think that of me. It was motivated by that line from Hughes, plus a residual anger over Bermondsey, that’s all. And that’s my question, a genuine one. Is Hughes right that being bisexual is a bar to office in the LDs? Honest question. I’ll admit I also think his status as some sort of left conscience of the party is misplaced. Farron, if anyone, suits that role better. Apologies if you thought I was just being flip or partisan: you can imagine as someone who’s not had to worry about this issue personally I thought long and hard about how best to write about it. And I took great care to point out the policy positions and entirely un-homophobic activists I’ve met.
#17 by R dfur on March 2, 2012 - 2:27 pm
Judging by your photo, you were too young to have been in Bermondsey yourself so I’ll let you off with the common misconception about Hughes being “a straight choice”. The leaflet actually said that it was a “straight choice” between Hughes & Tatchell. Given the Libs say every race is a “straight choice” between them & the other party I think the importance of that is often over played (their other very annoying slogan is ‘its a two horse race”). St Peter of Outrage has said as much himself.
Regardless, Labour activists get annoyed when I bring up Iraq, which happened a lot more recently than 1982. Even if the Libs did run a dirty campaign 30 years ago, it does not reflect the party the are today.
I agree with you on Farron though. Still too right wing for me, but better than the cut crazy current lot! 🙂
#18 by James on March 2, 2012 - 2:59 pm
As a reply to you and Dave on the “straight choice” stuff: Simon himself has apologised for it, and for the stunt where male Liberal activists went round with “I Kissed Peter Tatchell” badges. I know the straight choice stuff was more ambiguous than is regularly remembered, and I think I worded it above pretty carefully.
#19 by R dfur on March 2, 2012 - 2:32 pm
Also, apology accepted! 🙂
#20 by Dave Page on March 2, 2012 - 2:38 pm
As it happens, “a straight choice” is a standard Lib Dem slogan on campaign leaflets up and down the country for decades and doesn’t reflect on anybody’s sexuality.
The truly homophobic campaign in Bermondsey (including the infamous “Which queen will you vote for”, and publishing Peter’s home telephone number) was by the Independent Labour candidate whom Peter had beaten for the official selection.
#21 by Jeff on March 2, 2012 - 3:14 pm
Not that I know anything about this given I was 3 at the time but why did Simon Hughes apologise to Peter Tatchell if he and/or his campaign team didn’t do anything wrong?
#22 by R dfur on March 2, 2012 - 3:11 pm
As you may know, the “kissed” badges were worn by gay activists protesting Tatchell being in the closet so can hardly be called homophobic. I do however accept the irony given Hughes position at the time!
#23 by James on March 2, 2012 - 4:14 pm
Tatchell’s activism with the GLF hardly suggests the closet to me. But those were different times.
#24 by R dfur on March 2, 2012 - 3:24 pm
Personally I think the apology was given because of the perception that his campaign crossed a line. Which as you can see was rather unfair. People still think he called himself the straight choice and forget the ind. Lab candidate
#25 by Will Jess on March 2, 2012 - 6:08 pm
An interesting post James and I agree that Simon Hughes was implying being gay would diminish his leadership chances. I think the LD’s problem stems from a generation further back with Jeremy Thorpe and certain parts of the party still haven’t got over that.
#26 by Douglas McLellan on March 3, 2012 - 1:07 am
Its rare where you write a piece that I merely disagree with and instead find one thats a bit offensive. I have to say you are somewhat wide of the mark on this.
I think every Lib Dem regrets what happen in Bermondsey and I suspect Simon Hughes regrets it most of all. Despite the accepting and open circles we all move in I have no problem at all if a gay person doesn’t want to come out as gay. This article implies that you do?
The reasons for not wanting to come out could be many fold and I think that Laws is the perfect example – he had decided that he would not tell his mother and we should respect that. As a politician in a country that has no respect for the private lives of people in the public sphere it was inevitable he had to hide his sexuality because, as we have seen, it would have been reported. That is nothing to do with the Lib Dems and the party membership and all to do with how he felt his mother would react.
With the issue of Simon Hughes being outed and him feeling that this affected his leadership chances I suspect that he did indeed misjudge the feeling of the party on the matter but since being outed against your will would be putting unbelievable pressure on someone I am not surprised he was thinking that way. He may have felt that being bisexual was not a good thing in a party leader at the time which, given that was being outed in a national newspaper which clearly felt his sexuality was an issue, is something I can understand even if I disagree with his conclusion.
I don’t think any “party” has an issue with LGBT and it will be interesting to see how individual MSPs vote in the Equal Marriage bill when it comes before parliament. I can confidently predict that no Lib Dem MSP will vote against it.
#27 by R dfur on March 3, 2012 - 2:03 am
Unlike the Labour/SNP parties who despite claiming to be socially liberal will have a good half dozen plus MSPs voting against marriage equality.