Should a party’s annual conference make binding policy, and what role should an ordinary party member have in those decisions? Scotland’s main political parties appear to have come to very different answers to this question, which I will try to sum up below. Please bear in mind that I have only got direct experience of my own party in this respect, and will be happy to correct any factual errors below.
At one end, the Scottish Conservatives adopt an approach to policy-making which does not include any notion of internal democracy. There are no votes on policy matters at conference, even token ones, although early in the Cameron era his Built To Last document was submitted to a vote. Instead, the leadership determines policy: typically just the leader plus his or her kitchen cabinet. In this sense therefore, the Tory system is relatively close to that used by the Workers’ Party of Korea, who rarely bother with the rubber-stamp assembly beloved of other notionally leftwing personality cults. It’s at least honest, and to be fair, since 1998 the Tories have also let the membership choose their leaders from a shortlist of two by one member, one vote. This is clearly progress over the old approach – where MPs only got a vote – or the even older version – a leader “emerged” from the “magic circle”: i.e. it was carved up out of sight in a way that must have been great fun for those who regard politics as a full contact bloodsport.
Next along this sliding scale: Labour. Their procedures used to be highly democratic, including the formal setting of policy through motions such as the composites beloved of union bigwigs and loathed by the Millbank Tendency. This is all basically over now, with the leadership now setting all policy, not even the Blairite National Policy Forum. Some of the changes are relatively recent: until 2007 branch parties and trade unions could bring policy motions for a vote, even if the results would then be ignored by Labour Ministers. Having mentioned leadership above, personally I also deplore the way Labour allows people to join several “socialist societies” and unions and get several votes for a new leader, not to mention the way MPs both sift the candidates then get massively disproportional say in the outcome.
Then the Lib Dems. They have picked a particularly bizarre point on the spectrum from Stalinist control through to radical democracy. As I understand it, their conference is open to all members, all of whom can vote and bring forward motions. The problem is they mean nothing, especially when Lib Dem Ministers have got some selling out to do. This week the issue was so-called “free schools”, discussed here previously by Jeff. As the Lib Dem proponent of the motion said, “Just as the supermarket drives the corner shop out of business, so it will be with schools.” Danny Alexander, described by one Twitter wag as tree-promoter turned economics expert, then declared it would make no difference to policy. The same used to apply to Scottish Lib Dem conference when they were in government here. The membership said that GM crop trials should stop. Ross Finnie pressed on regardless. Curious. Not particularly liberal nor notably democratic.
Although it was put to me that this blogpost was designed to make Greens look good, the brief research I’ve done does show the SNP joining us at the actually democratic end of this spectrum. I must admit I know less about the SNP’s procedures, but I do know that, like the Greens, their conference does formally set policy, with members and branches free to bring motions. I also can’t find an instance of the leadership simply over-ruling them, although Mr Cochrane, the Last Black-Hearted Unionist, has got one. The party’s leadership procedures are posted online in their entirety, and seem pretty hard to fault. Like us, it’s one member, one vote, no special treatment for MPs or interest groups.
The open question is not one of principle, though – obviously it’s hard to make a principled objection to internal democracy. But are parties with actually democratic procedures more likely to survive internal tensions and evolve, or can that internal democracy make it harder to respond to changing circumstances? Does Labour’s “democratic centralism” actually help them more than they pay in demoralised activists, unable even to slow a swing to the right? Those decisions surely weren’t taken simply for self-interest: Peter Mandelson or someone else must have concluded that the open expression of democracy was more damaging than the alternative. My sense is that that move was wrong both strategically and in principle, but I don’t have any evidence for that view.
And is going into government something which ought to change a party’s approach? Did the Lib Dems stick to the policy set by conference except where it restricted Lib Dem Ministers’ activity? Will Labour return to a more democratic approach now they’re in opposition across the country? Have the SNP really managed to keep internal democracy while running the Scottish Government? There seems little point letting the membership set policy only when you’re in opposition, rather than when you might be able to make real change.
As a press officer for a democratic party, I certainly see one downside of the radically democratic approach, not that I’d change it. Any radical new policy development the party makes can’t be unveiled dramatically in March or April of an election year. It must instead be decided in public at our autumn conference. If only there was a way we could agree any policy changes democratically but still keep them under our hats until we could publicise them as effectively as possible.
#1 by Jeff on September 23, 2010 - 4:16 pm
Good stuff James. I have to admit to often marvelling at the Lib Dem boasts of its ‘one member, one vote’ system as there is a yawning disconnect between what those members vote on and what the leadership pushes for above their heads.
I suppose the other side of the coin is that the time pressures and the ups & downs of coalition Government means that Clegg, Huhne and Cable can’t postpone discussions to have a quick party conference to check whether members agree one way or the other on anything.
But I’ve never considered each of the partys in the round, let alone put them on a sliding scale as you have done. I would agree with your conclusion.
For the SNP, having dipped my toes into two Conferences I would have to say it was what I expected and indeed hoped for; an open forum where one could propose, debate, discuss and vote for anything. There may be an artificial binding of Nats as they strive onwards for independence but that doesn’t diminish, Alan Cochrane articles to one side, the impressiveness of a large group holding together as a team so consistently.
And while the Greens may not have independence to bind them, one could argue that addressing Climate Change takes that place while their lower number of members makes it easier to ensure democracy carries on.
One point of disagreement, sort of (since you only floated the idea). If D Miliband wins the nomination, I do not expect Labour to become any more democratic. Just a hunch.
#2 by Indy on September 23, 2010 - 4:21 pm
The SNP is very democratic about policy . Sometimes a bit too democratic perhaps. I am remembering a Conference that was dominated by the draft EU constitution a few years ago. We (delegates) were all sent a copy of the draft constitution to read through –heavy going- and then there were various presentations and briefings at Conference which we were expected to attend so that we had a full understanding of what we were voting on. I remember thinking at the time that there was something to be said for the leadership just deciding things for us. Trying to get to grips with the inner workings of the EU is hard work, especially “the morning after the night beforeâ€. And the thing is although I remember lengthy debates about the whole thing I can’t actually remember what we decided! Neil MacCormick will probably be birling in his grave at that – oops, sorry Neil.
Re the relationship between party policy and being in Government. Conference decisions are binding in the SNP. But that does not mean that everything the Scottish Government does is party policy because we don’t have party policy on every issue. That’s where it can become interesting. I know a member who is not happy about the double jeopardy reform and was arguing that it was not party policy. But we don’t actually have any party policy on it one way or another so I think that means the Government has a free hand. But if tensions arise that is where they will arise – not specifically on double jeopardy but on issues where the Government takes a policy position which party members might not agree with but where the party itself has no policy.
PS You can get round the issue of unveiling new policies in the run-up to the election by having a conference in the spring. The SNP almost always has a spring conference in addition to annual conference. Constitutionally in the SNP policy is made at annual conference, then we have 3 National Councils which are one day events which can also make policy, usually held in March, June and December. In practice the March national council has become a 2 day event usually described as a campaign conference because we are almost always in the run-up to some campaign.
#3 by Douglas McLellan on September 23, 2010 - 5:03 pm
This is a thought provoking piece but I think it doesn’t examine enough the link between party policy and legislative actions.
As you linked to, where was the SNP party membership vote on Alex Salmond not bringing forward legislation on an independence referendum? Yet it was a piece of legislation that would not have sucecced in the parliament so does it matter that Alex Salmond sough to avoid the press coverage nearer the election? Likewise, the Lib Dem membership voted on something that had already gone through a legislative processes. What possibly can be done now except have a line in the 2015 manifesto that seeks to remove the legislation?
The Ross Finnie reference was interesting as it showed the lack of impact a membership can have on issues that stem from the EU. How is that to be addressed. It is ‘curious’ that when it comes to some EU poisiton (GM Crop trials) then of course party membership should be able to stop it happening yet other EU positions (like votes for prisoners) should of course be adhered to even if the governing parties membership doesn’t want it to happen? Curious or just hypocritical? The ECHR often has judgements against the government but should a membership vote be able to overturn that judgement?
Labour does have different approaches to Government and Opposition. The Shadow Cabinet is elected in opposition but the Cabinet is chosen by the PM when in government.
And what role do Manifestos play in all of this? Some MPs, Tom Harris in particular, feel that if a party fails to win power then the manifesto can be ignored. Yet in power manifestos contain both commitments and aspirations (though I cant tell the difference when reading manifestos before elections). Can a party legislate for something that was not in a manifesto? The SNP manifesto for 2007 contained strong words about alcohol but nothing about a minimum price for alcohol. If an SNP conference should/has voted for a 45p minimum price then what weight should be given to a parties membership compared to the electorate at large?
It is the electorate that are the ultimate members of each political party. It is the electorate that vote on the policy positions and decide what their party, the government of the day, does and says on their behalf.
#4 by Indy on September 23, 2010 - 5:22 pm
SNP policy on holding a referendum on independence has not changed Douglas. We are still committed to holding a referendum on independence. Clearly however we need the support of more MSPs to do that.
#5 by Indy on September 23, 2010 - 5:26 pm
SNP Conference did vote on minumum pricing incidentally but clearly Conference can only vote on general principles and to endorse government action. It cannot control legislation! Here is the resolution that was passed:
“The SNP recognises the innovative proposals the Scottish Government has put forward in the Alcohol Bill to address Scotland’s relationship with alcohol; considers that Minimum Pricing is a significant and important part of a range of measures proposed aimed at changing Scotland’s culture around alcohol; notes the overwhelming support for the proposals from health professionals and agencies in Scotland and elsewhere; further notes that opposition parties in Scotland have failed to commit their support to the Alcohol Bill, which will help address the 3,000 deaths, 42,000 hospital stays and the 110,000 GP visits linked to alcohol in Scotland annually. The SNP further welcomes the support of the UK Parliament Health Select Committee for the concept of minimum pricing to tackle
problematic alcohol use.”
#6 by James on September 25, 2010 - 8:51 am
There’s my difference right there – Scottish Green Party conference is much more specific, not so much with the general principles. Interesting.
#7 by commenter on September 23, 2010 - 5:45 pm
“Just as the supermarket drives the corner shop out of business, so it will be with schools.â€
Well, there’s an unashamed declaration of where the guy’s interests lie – with the producer rather than the user of the service.
Gone, gone will be the over-priced packets of Super Noodles, and out-of-date Sunblest that we know and love. The tears are pure welling up at the thought… ;^)
#8 by Indy on September 23, 2010 - 6:02 pm
You should maybe have read the whole article Comemnter:
“Just as the supermarket drives the corner shop out of business, so it will be with schools. When Sainsbury’s provides some new products to lure people away from their competitors, the unsold items in the failing shops can be returned to the wholesaler or sold off in a sale. But not so in schools. Pupils are human beings, not tins of beans.”
#9 by commenter on September 29, 2010 - 1:33 pm
“Humans are not tins of beans”
Indeed. Then I do wonder what the heck analogy is the guy trying to make, given that corner shops and supermarkets are in the tins of beans business? And supermarkets are demonstrably better at it than cornershops, providing a wider range at lower prices.
All I can imagine (without bothering to find out the context) is that the man is an imbecile with strange romantic notions about cornershops.
#10 by commenter on September 29, 2010 - 1:35 pm
Oh right – so he’s saying that in the case of supermarkets, tins of beans are the customers. I thought the customers were the people who bought the beans.
An ‘interesting’ way of looking at things to be sure.
#11 by commenter on September 29, 2010 - 1:44 pm
OK, deary me I’m not paying attention.
What he’s saying, I think, is that we can’t allow new schools (supermarkets) that are better than old schools, because pupils (beans) might end up going to the new, better schools. And we can’t allow beans (pupils) to be moved from bad supermarkets to good ones, because then bad supermarkets wont have any beans.
And by God, supermarkets must have beans regardless of how shite they are.
So, we must ensure all supermarkets are equally bad, to prevent bean movement.
#12 by James on September 29, 2010 - 2:00 pm
I don’t agree with your analysis, but it did make me LOL, as the kids say.
#13 by Phil Hunt on September 23, 2010 - 6:59 pm
In a party’s internal procedures, they can do things however they like, unfettered by outside constraints. If they choose to have an undemocratic top-down structure, that demonstrates a lack of commitment to democracy, which is likely to also apply to the polices they will enact if they gain power. So it’s not the least bit surprising, given the polices they’ve enacted, that the Labour and Conservative parties have undemocratic internal structures — in fact they seem to adhere to the Fuehrerprinzip almost as much as the Nazis did.
#14 by James on September 24, 2010 - 8:46 am
Whoops! We’ve had our first Godwin incident. (shame, because I do agree that internal democracy is likely to go along with wider democratic principles)
#15 by Paul on September 24, 2010 - 11:31 am
It’s clear that at the coalition stage that this falls down somewhat. It’s fine to have a democratic process at the party level, but it is put aside if you have to negotiate at the government level.
At Holyrood, the difference is the SNP are a minority government so have pushed through what they can, but haven’t had to put through policy that hasn’t been agreed at the party level due to bargaining with a coalition partner, the same way the LibDems have.
Has Nick Clegg gone wrong by being too cosy and and loved up with Cameron? He can’t then say “well, this is a Tory policy we don’t agree with, but are voting for as party of the coalition agreement”. Instead they have to look to like all the government policies.